tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4932746992402771668.post7506055636644309476..comments2023-07-10T17:01:53.149+01:00Comments on Pupillage and How to Get It.: Some Issues for the New A-GSMhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06066695497843105646noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4932746992402771668.post-15126121231808248572007-06-27T18:03:00.000+01:002007-06-27T18:03:00.000+01:00A quick poll of Mrs M and her office colleagues su...A quick poll of Mrs M and her office colleagues suggest that most do not want to be Crown Court advocates. Nor do most solicitors. Career progression can mean more than better courts - for most solicitors it means better cases. <BR/><BR/>So, I agree about lack of career progression without tying that to advocacy. It isn't really for a Barrister to comment on the faults of the CPS - it is for its own employees. But the new plan to allow some senior posts to be devoted to casework and others to administration seems to me to be a step in the right direction.<BR/><BR/>Ultimately, if you take away advocacy, the problem is that it's too easy to get stuck. There are only a few chiefs allowed - and there are lots of Indians. In commercial solicitors firms that problem is resolved by allowing senior people to do marketing and client care as well as good work. At the CPS that option is closed. <BR/><BR/>Advocacy won't solve the problem - not just because too many don't want to do it and don't see it as progression, but because there isn't enough talent there to do really good work and the preparation time would cause economic problems - how do you account for the 100 odd hours to prepare a moderately complicated rape? Barristers do it at home in the evenings - CPS lawyers don't get paid for that. Why should they do it?<BR/><BR/>My own view is that there would be better morale if the Crown Court advocacy was left alone and career progression meant case work. There would be fewer employees, more productively employed and happier. But what do I know? That's no one's definition of an empire...SMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06066695497843105646noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4932746992402771668.post-64046760973848192352007-06-26T23:41:00.000+01:002007-06-26T23:41:00.000+01:00This comment has been removed by the author.Troubled barristerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11996051130590581216noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4932746992402771668.post-567578872865506722007-06-26T23:14:00.000+01:002007-06-26T23:14:00.000+01:00This comment has been removed by the author.Troubled barristerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11996051130590581216noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4932746992402771668.post-39430765963369858342007-06-26T21:37:00.000+01:002007-06-26T21:37:00.000+01:00I think you have raised a very important point - n...I think you have raised a very important point - namely that the adversarial system of justice only works when the parties involved are detached and don’t get personal, when emotions run high - mistakes are made. This is not good for the Defendant nor the Government as they will be paying the wages of Queens Council when the matter comes up for appeal, then we may have carter2 - whereby the fees that one can claim on cases such as these are put out to tender, thus shooting the cab rank rule between the eyes.Barrister 2 Bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09015586555916327820noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4932746992402771668.post-37684138366831032322007-06-26T17:27:00.000+01:002007-06-26T17:27:00.000+01:00Just one comment to make - I could make more but w...Just one comment to make - I could make more but would be here all evening. The cab rank rule is designed to uncork the concept of doing all manner of cases we are competent to do. Since when does "work we believe in" fit into that?<BR/><BR/>I recall that recent TV prog' about the Manchester Chambers bending the rules to do work that they believed in and ultimately corrupting themselves to get their clients off. Sick stuff and I felt it gave the Bar a very bad name.<BR/><BR/>It's a buzz to do work that corresponds to our personal moral code, but that is not what we are called to do.<BR/><BR/>I love the English Bar and celebrate the fact that we are impartial servants of the Court as well as of our clients. With pride I contrast it with the partisan and emotionally charged style seen in the American Courts.<BR/><BR/>Look at that dreadful OJ Simpson case.Mr Pineappleshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08696204287962843200noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4932746992402771668.post-32146911730431886372007-06-26T14:19:00.000+01:002007-06-26T14:19:00.000+01:00I would be interested to read more, even if not to...I would be interested to read more, even if not to comment (Criminal law not my speciality), so please write on!<BR/><BR/>LLPoppyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01048245328095180792noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4932746992402771668.post-36976270256828399602007-06-25T18:59:00.000+01:002007-06-25T18:59:00.000+01:00This comment has been removed by the author.Troubled barristerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11996051130590581216noreply@blogger.com